{"id":2380,"date":"2013-06-12T00:00:34","date_gmt":"2013-06-12T04:00:34","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/smugfilm.com\/?p=2380"},"modified":"2013-06-12T00:12:59","modified_gmt":"2013-06-12T04:12:59","slug":"an-interview-with-jack-perez","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/smugfilm.com\/oldsite\/an-interview-with-jack-perez\/","title":{"rendered":"An Interview with B-Movie Filmmaker Jack Perez"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignleft size-full wp-image-2384\" style=\"border: 4px solid  #000000;\" alt=\"jackperez\" src=\"http:\/\/smugfilm.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/06\/jackperez.jpg\" width=\"692\" height=\"460\" srcset=\"https:\/\/smugfilm.com\/oldsite\/..\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/06\/jackperez.jpg 692w, https:\/\/smugfilm.com\/oldsite\/..\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/06\/jackperez-300x199.jpg 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 692px) 100vw, 692px\" \/><br \/>\n<br style=\"clear: both;\" \/><br \/>\n<i>You might not have heard of Jack Perez, or his many aliases, but you\u2019ve probably heard of his work.\u00a0 Jack directed <\/i><a href=\"http:\/\/www.amazon.com\/gp\/product\/B0001GF2BA?ie=UTF8&amp;camp=1789&amp;creativeASIN=B0001GF2BA&amp;linkCode=xm2&amp;tag=smufil-20\" target=\"_blank\"><i>Wild Things 2<\/i><\/a><i> for TriStar and the pilot for the popular cult TV show <\/i><a href=\"http:\/\/www.amazon.com\/gp\/product\/B00344EAQO?ie=UTF8&amp;camp=1789&amp;creativeASIN=B00344EAQO&amp;linkCode=xm2&amp;tag=smufil-20\" target=\"_blank\"><i>Xena: Warrior Princess<\/i><\/a><i>. His film\u00a0<\/i><a href=\"http:\/\/www.amazon.com\/gp\/product\/B003ABZGFK?ie=UTF8&amp;camp=1789&amp;creativeASIN=B003ABZGFK&amp;linkCode=xm2&amp;tag=smufil-20\" target=\"_blank\"><i>Mega Shark vs Giant Octopus<\/i><\/a><i> is a staple of the B-movie resurgence of the last decade.<\/i><\/p>\n<p><i>Jack has one of the rarest jobs on earth\u2014he\u2019s a working director in Hollywood.\u00a0 The DGA represents just over 14,000 directors.\u00a0 They say in SAG about 5% of the union is working\u2014I\u2019d probably halve that when talking about the DGA.\u00a0 And remember, for every one of those 14,000 there is literally thousands upon thousands of people dying to get in.\u00a0 Directing is an elusive job, everybody knows a director makes a movie but almost nobody\u2014lay people and cinephiles alike\u2014really have any idea about what the job actually entails.<\/i><br \/>\n<!--more--><br \/>\n<i>I was fortunate enough to sit down with Jack and pick his brain about his process and career as a filmmaker:<\/i><\/p>\n<p><b>Q:\u00a0 One thing I&#8217;m always interested in is the path, so let&#8217;s start there. Did you always want to be a filmmaker?<\/b><\/p>\n<p>A:\u00a0 Always. Nothing made as big an impression on me as film.\u00a0 While other kids were heavy into sports or music, I would be home watching 50\u2019s monster flicks and <a href=\"http:\/\/www.amazon.com\/gp\/product\/B005VU9LKE?ie=UTF8&amp;camp=1789&amp;creativeASIN=B005VU9LKE&amp;linkCode=xm2&amp;tag=smufil-20\" target=\"_blank\">Godzilla<\/a> movies and anything I could get my eyes on, really.\u00a0 Also, my dad was a huge movie nut and would wake me up in the middle of the night to watch favorite films of his\u2014mostly old war movies\u2014that were showing on TV (this was the 70s,\u00a0 before VCRs).\u00a0 It was logical that I eventually borrow his Super 8 camera and start making my own little monster movies, then started planning on going to film school.\u00a0 I ended up attending NYU, where I truly started to learn what directing was, and refine my technique.<\/p>\n<p><b>Q:\u00a0 What was your big break? It&#8217;s a clich\u00e9 question, but being a working director is a tough job and one that many folks would kill to have. What was your way in?\u00a0<\/b><\/p>\n<p>A:\u00a0 I\u2019ve been fortunate to have had a few lucky breaks.\u00a0 Out of film school, I got the chance to direct a ton of behind-the-scenes documentaries for ZM Productions (who made the great doc on <a href=\"http:\/\/www.amazon.com\/gp\/product\/B003UESJJC?ie=UTF8&amp;camp=1789&amp;creativeASIN=B003UESJJC&amp;linkCode=xm2&amp;tag=smufil-20\" target=\"_blank\">Apocalypse Now<\/a>, <a href=\"http:\/\/www.amazon.com\/gp\/product\/B003UESJJC?ie=UTF8&amp;camp=1789&amp;creativeASIN=B003UESJJC&amp;linkCode=xm2&amp;tag=smufil-20\" target=\"_blank\">Hearts of Darkness<\/a>).\u00a0 I hung around their offices for months, doing stuff for free, but eventually I was filming on the sets of everything from <a href=\"http:\/\/www.amazon.com\/gp\/product\/B0022NHTD4?ie=UTF8&amp;camp=1789&amp;creativeASIN=B0022NHTD4&amp;linkCode=xm2&amp;tag=smufil-20\" target=\"_blank\">Grumpy Old Men<\/a>\u00a0to <a href=\"http:\/\/www.amazon.com\/gp\/product\/0783231644?ie=UTF8&amp;camp=1789&amp;creativeASIN=0783231644&amp;linkCode=xm2&amp;tag=smufil-20\" target=\"_blank\">The Flintstones<\/a>\u00a0to <a href=\"http:\/\/www.amazon.com\/gp\/product\/0783227892?ie=UTF8&amp;camp=1789&amp;creativeASIN=0783227892&amp;linkCode=xm2&amp;tag=smufil-20\" target=\"_blank\">Hard Target<\/a>,\u00a0John Woo\u2019s first American film. It was after I made a particularly cool doc on that film, championing Woo as a master of action, that the producers\u2014Sam Raimi and Rob Tapert\u2014asked if I would help them promote their new show, <a href=\"http:\/\/www.amazon.com\/gp\/product\/B00344EAKA?ie=UTF8&amp;camp=1789&amp;creativeASIN=B00344EAKA&amp;linkCode=xm2&amp;tag=smufil-20\" target=\"_blank\">Hercules: The Legendary Journeys<\/a>, with Kevin Sorbo.\u00a0 I wound up making some trailers for the conventions and ended up being asked to direct second unit on one of the Hercules TV movies shooting in New Zealand. That ultimately lead to my getting to direct the pilot for Xena: Warrior Princess.\u00a0 It\u2019s weird how this business can pinball you around. You start one place and mysteriously land somewhere totally unexpected.<\/p>\n<p><b>Q:\u00a0 This is kind of general but what is it like being a working director? \u00a0What are some of the ups and downs, hardships, good moments?<\/b><\/p>\n<p>A:\u00a0 I know I\u2019m not alone when I say the good times are those when you are working, and the worst are when you\u2019re not.\u00a0 There are many aspects to this, but essentially being a director is a calling.\u00a0 Which means you really have no choice. \u00a0You\u2019re a junkie constantly looking for a fix.\u00a0 Of course, being able to make a living directing is a wonderful thing, but it\u2019s also a constant struggle to make ends meet. \u00a0Although I\u2019ve done things for the studios and networks, I\u2019m still essentially a low-budget, independent filmmaker.\u00a0 Financially, it has always been a hand-to-mouth scenario.\u00a0 I\u2019ve directed for 25 years, but still I have no savings. I\u2019m still in debt.\u00a0 You may make a chunk of change on one film, but then not work again for two years and spend that whole time trying to hustle up the next gig\u2014which is never really in your control.\u00a0 It can get dark sometimes.\u00a0 But as Lee Strasberg says to Pacino in <a href=\"http:\/\/www.amazon.com\/gp\/product\/B002TOL8UQ?ie=UTF8&amp;camp=1789&amp;creativeASIN=B002TOL8UQ&amp;linkCode=xm2&amp;tag=smufil-20\" target=\"_blank\">The Godfather: Part II<\/a>\u2014\u201cThis is the business we have chosen!\u201d<\/p>\n<p><b>Q:\u00a0 Can you give some advice to young people who are aspiring filmmakers?<\/b><\/p>\n<p>A:\u00a0 If you can be happy doing anything else, do it.\u00a0 Cause it\u2019s a very hard business.\u00a0 But if you have something to say, and can only express it through film, then it\u2019s your duty to yourself to pursue that.\u00a0 At all costs.\u00a0 Really, you have to be willing to go through hell and take a lot of serious hits.\u00a0 And stick it out as long as you can.\u00a0 That\u2019s why it helps to be obsessed with film, possessed by it.\u00a0 Again, a junkie.\u00a0 Cause it\u2019s what keeps you going through all the dark times. \u00a0Which will be there. \u00a0Also, if you\u2019re a director, direct.\u00a0 Find a way to make a low budget feature, cause rarely will someone be hired to direct a feature based on a short.<\/p>\n<p><b>Q:\u00a0 Talk a little bit a about taking on a project like Wild Things 2. \u00a0I assume it&#8217;s a director-for-hire gig? \u00a0Are you able to bring a vision to the table or are you \u00a0more of a cog in the machine?\u00a0<\/b><\/p>\n<p>A:\u00a0 Wild Things 2 was definitely a job for hire.\u00a0 But it had also been a long time since I had directed, so I was actually dying to do it.\u00a0 I tried to put my own spin on the thing and shoot it in a way that was interesting to me, more visually expressive.\u00a0 But overall, it was about making a sequel look as big as the first movie, which had seven times the budget!\u00a0 That was the practical problem, and my job to solve. \u00a0Also, finding a unique way to stage a three-way sex scene, which I had never done!<\/p>\n<p><b>Q:\u00a0 You&#8217;ve done some really cool movies like Mega Shark vs Giant Octopus and they seem to be, for lack of a better term, the modern day B movies. However, what I find interesting is that nowadays the B movies are aware of themselves, they&#8217;re made in celebration of a type of movie that is actually beloved for being kinda goofy by virtue of being unaware of itself. \u00a0It&#8217;s a little ironic in a way and I was wondering if you could speak on it. Whether you agree or disagree.<\/b><\/p>\n<p>A:\u00a0 I totally agree. \u00a0A good b-movie, like any movie, is made with real love for the material.\u00a0 If you love something, know it inside and out, you\u2019re in a proper position to comment on it, poke fun at it.\u00a0 Mega Shark vsGiant Octopus was my goofy take on everything from <a href=\"http:\/\/www.amazon.com\/gp\/product\/B000Y2Q9J0?ie=UTF8&amp;camp=1789&amp;creativeASIN=B000Y2Q9J0&amp;linkCode=xm2&amp;tag=smufil-20\" target=\"_blank\">It Came from Beneath the Sea<\/a> to <a href=\"http:\/\/www.amazon.com\/gp\/product\/B000P24FAE?ie=UTF8&amp;camp=1789&amp;creativeASIN=B000P24FAE&amp;linkCode=xm2&amp;tag=smufil-20\" target=\"_blank\">King Kong vs Godzilla<\/a> to <a href=\"http:\/\/www.amazon.com\/gp\/product\/B006ZUMOX0?ie=UTF8&amp;camp=1789&amp;creativeASIN=B006ZUMOX0&amp;linkCode=xm2&amp;tag=smufil-20\" target=\"_blank\">Plan 9 From Outer Space<\/a>.\u00a0 There\u2019s a big difference between commenting on Ed Wood and <em>being<\/em> Ed Wood. And as much as I love Wood, I prefer to be the former.<\/p>\n<p><b>Q:\u00a0 What has inspired your visual style? \u00a0How do you like to shoot, edit? Tell me about your process and how that process relates to the final vision you want to put on screen.<\/b><\/p>\n<p>A:\u00a0 Like all directors, I\u2019ve been visually inspired by hosts of great filmmakers like Peckinpah and Hitchcock, Kurosawa and Welles, Scorsese and Frankenheimer, etc. \u00a0But specifically, my own visual style comes out of a love of wider lenses (over long) and the philosophy of &#8216;shooting to cut&#8217;; that is, knowing what the final piece is going to look like, editorially, shot for shot, before you go out and shoot it.\u00a0 This was born out of never having enough time to shoot scenes a variety of ways. \u00a0But I soon learned that I prefer being very precise about where the camera is for each moment in a film. \u00a0Never over-covering, trying (in a Ford-ian, Huston-ian way) to find the ideal place for the camera to be for each important moment of a scene.\u00a0 And knowing as well as you can how those pieces connect.\u00a0 There\u2019s something very exciting about committing to a shot and saying \u201cthat\u2019s it.\u201d\u00a0 It forces a thoughtfulness and creates a distinctive look.\u00a0 Anybody can &#8216;hose down&#8217; a scene with multiple shots and camera angles.\u00a0 And back to wider lenses\u2014sometimes I shoot a whole movie on a 25mm or 32mm (my two favorite focal lengths) and rarely at eye-level.\u00a0 That slightly-distorted view of the world appeals to me.\u00a0 I loved it in Welles\u2019s stuff, Frankenheimer\u2019s, the Coen brothers\u2019\u2014that look speaks to me.<\/p>\n<p><b>Q:\u00a0 And lastly, what is your favorite movie?<\/b><\/p>\n<p>A:\u00a0 I have two.\u00a0 A western by Robert Aldrich, <a href=\"http:\/\/www.amazon.com\/gp\/product\/B004UJN1UI?ie=UTF8&amp;camp=1789&amp;creativeASIN=B004UJN1UI&amp;linkCode=xm2&amp;tag=smufil-20\" target=\"_blank\">Vera Cruz<\/a> (which made Peckinpah and Leoni possible).\u00a0 And Hitchcock\u2019s <a href=\"http:\/\/www.amazon.com\/gp\/product\/B0065N6K9Q?ie=UTF8&amp;camp=1789&amp;creativeASIN=B0065N6K9Q&amp;linkCode=xm2&amp;tag=smufil-20\" target=\"_blank\">Notorious<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p><b>Q:\u00a0 What is your least favorite movie?\u00a0<\/b><\/p>\n<p>A:\u00a0 Too many to name. Although I would include\u00a0<a href=\"http:\/\/www.amazon.com\/gp\/product\/B000FIHNAW?ie=UTF8&amp;camp=1789&amp;creativeASIN=B000FIHNAW&amp;linkCode=xm2&amp;tag=smufil-20\" target=\"_blank\">666: The Child<\/a>, a film I made &#8216;from hunger&#8217; years ago among them.<\/p>\n<p><b>Q:\u00a0 Oh, and lastly, what&#8217;s with all the alternate names?<\/b><\/p>\n<p>A:\u00a0 Well, some movies are made by producers who you know are gonna mess with your edit.\u00a0 Given my shoot-to-cut method, if my editorial control is so compromised that the film starts to become more &#8216;theirs&#8217; than mine, then I\u2019ll try to use a pseudonym.\u00a0 Mega Shark vs Giant Octopus (as silly as it is) was a much different movie in my cut that what wound up on the screen!<\/p>\n<p><i>I liked what Jack said about shooting for the edit.\u00a0 If there\u2019s one signifying mark of a truly visual director, it\u2019s that: visualizing the sequences in their totality and designing shots that are dependent on one another.\u00a0 Guys like Kevin Smith, Penny Marshall and Rob Reiner don\u2019t do that.\u00a0 They aren\u2019t bad directors, just different. <\/i><\/p>\n<p><i>From Welles to Scorsese to Bay to Perez, it\u2019s the guys that cut their teeth making their own shorts with their dads Super 8 in their backyards, dreaming of being directors in Hollywood one day that tend to care a great deal about each and every individual shot. \u00a0 And only one percent of them ever will get the chance, and Jack is one of them.\u00a0 And that\u2019s pretty fucking cool.\u00a0<\/i><\/p>\n<p><i>Right now Jack is wrapping up a Frankie Muniz movie called <\/i><a href=\"http:\/\/www.imdb.com\/title\/tt2320640\/reference\" target=\"_blank\"><i>Blast Vegas<\/i><\/a><i>\u00a0for SyFy.\u00a0 It\u2019s a supernatural disaster flick that will premiere this July.\u00a0 Keep a look out for it!<\/i><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignleft size-full wp-image-2384\" style=\"border: 4px solid  #000000;\" alt=\"jackperez\" src=\"http:\/\/smugfilm.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/06\/jackperez.jpg\" width=\"692\" height=\"460\" srcset=\"https:\/\/smugfilm.com\/oldsite\/..\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/06\/jackperez.jpg 692w, https:\/\/smugfilm.com\/oldsite\/..\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/06\/jackperez-300x199.jpg 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 692px) 100vw, 692px\" \/><br \/>\n<br style=\"clear: both;\" \/><br \/>\n<i>You might not have heard of Jack Perez, or his many aliases, but you\u2019ve probably heard of his work.\u00a0 Jack directed <\/i><a href=\"http:\/\/www.amazon.com\/gp\/product\/B0001GF2BA?ie=UTF8&amp;camp=1789&amp;creativeASIN=B0001GF2BA&amp;linkCode=xm2&amp;tag=smufil-20\" target=\"_blank\"><i>Wild Things 2<\/i><\/a><i> for TriStar and the pilot for the popular cult TV show <\/i><a href=\"http:\/\/www.amazon.com\/gp\/product\/B00344EAQO?ie=UTF8&amp;camp=1789&amp;creativeASIN=B00344EAQO&amp;linkCode=xm2&amp;tag=smufil-20\" target=\"_blank\"><i>Xena: Warrior Princess<\/i><\/a><i>. His film\u00a0<\/i><a href=\"http:\/\/www.amazon.com\/gp\/product\/B003ABZGFK?ie=UTF8&amp;camp=1789&amp;creativeASIN=B003ABZGFK&amp;linkCode=xm2&amp;tag=smufil-20\" target=\"_blank\"><i>Mega Shark vs Giant Octopus<\/i><\/a><i> is a staple of the B-movie resurgence of the last decade.<\/i><\/p>\n<p><i>Jack has one of the rarest jobs on earth\u2014he\u2019s a working director in Hollywood.\u00a0 The DGA represents just over 14,000 directors.\u00a0 They say in SAG about 5% of the union is working\u2014I\u2019d probably halve that when talking about the DGA.\u00a0 And remember, for every one of those 14,000 there is literally thousands upon thousands of people dying to get in.\u00a0 Directing is an elusive job, everybody knows a director makes a movie but almost nobody\u2014lay people and cinephiles alike\u2014really have any idea about what the job actually entails.<\/i><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[25,21],"tags":[1838,810,1826,1836,1830,1831,1828,1832,1835,1818,1819,1820,1449,1840,604,564,1824,1823,1842,1839,461,1837,1829,1834,1833,1822,1841,1821,1825,1827],"class_list":["post-2380","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-allposts","category-gregsinterviews","tag-akira-kurosawa","tag-alfred-hitchcock","tag-godzilla","tag-godzilla-vs-king-kong","tag-grumpy-old-men","tag-hard-target","tag-hearts-of-darkness","tag-hercules-the-legendary-journeys","tag-it-came-from-beneath-the-sea","tag-jack-perez","tag-jack-perez-filmmaker","tag-jack-perez-interview","tag-john-ford","tag-john-frankenheimer","tag-john-huston","tag-martin-scorsese","tag-mega-shark-vs-giant-octopus","tag-megashark-vs-giant-octopus","tag-notorious","tag-orson-welles","tag-plan-9-from-outer-space","tag-sam-peckinpah","tag-the-flintstones","tag-the-godfather-part-2","tag-the-godfather-part-ii","tag-tristar","tag-vera-cruz","tag-wild-things-2","tag-xena-warrior-princess","tag-zm-productions"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/smugfilm.com\/oldsite\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/2380","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/smugfilm.com\/oldsite\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/smugfilm.com\/oldsite\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/smugfilm.com\/oldsite\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/smugfilm.com\/oldsite\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=2380"}],"version-history":[{"count":12,"href":"https:\/\/smugfilm.com\/oldsite\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/2380\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":2424,"href":"https:\/\/smugfilm.com\/oldsite\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/2380\/revisions\/2424"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/smugfilm.com\/oldsite\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=2380"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/smugfilm.com\/oldsite\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=2380"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/smugfilm.com\/oldsite\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=2380"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}